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Can a woman be president but not a pastor?

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Clock 9. March 2009 by David Julen, First Baptist Church, Cramerton
Last fall more than 40 million Americans voted to place a woman within a heartbeat of the oval office. Today women have unprecedented influence in business and government.  

Many of our universities and graduate schools are led by women, and women make up a majority of the students in these schools.

It is far different from the time of the writing of the New Testament where the publicly influential woman was the exception rather than the rule. In first century Judaism, from which Christianity was birthed, the role of women was even more restricted than in commerce and politics. In the synagogue and in the temple women were not allowed to pray publicly in a worship service or be taught by a rabbi. In fact a common prayer prayed by a devout Jewish man was to thank God that he was not a pagan, an ignorant man or a woman. In short, women and their roles in religious life were viewed much differently than today.
                                                     
For many Christians there is a disconnect between women in the classroom, boardroom or oval office and in the pulpit.

The Georgia Baptist Convention recently removed a church from its rolls because the church selected a woman as pastor. The splintering of the Southern Baptist Convention and the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina was driven to a large degree by opposing views of the role of women in the church.

The position of many of these Christians is that the Bible explicitly prohibits women from teaching men or holding any positions of leadership that involve leading men in the church.

This position may be summarized by Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission and an early supporter of Gov. Sarah Palin for vice-president. In an interview Land stated: “We don’t go beyond where the New Testament goes. Public office is neither a church nor a marriage.”

Land and others who supported Palin see their position as perfectly consistent. Palin is qualified to be president but prohibited from being pastor of a local church by biblical teaching. Their position being that biblical truth stands authoritative over cultural changes.          

Yet perhaps the truth is not so simple. The New Testament shows a paradigm change in the expanded roles and responsibilities of women in the early church.

In passages such as the first Christian sermon at Pentecost, Peter quotes the prophet Joel and proclaims the time has been fulfilled for the Holy Spirit to come in a new way. “In the last days, God says I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophecy ‘Even on my servants both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days’” (Acts 2:17-18).

Early in the history of the Christian church women assume some form of leadership roles that would be unthinkable in synagogues.

Phoebe is a deacon and a benefactor (Romans 16:1-2), Mary, Lydia and Nympha are leaders of house churches (Acts 12:12, 16:15, Col.4:15).   

This is in marked contrast to Judaism in which eight males were required to be present to form a synagogue.

Paul claims that in the new day of Christ there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile, slave or free or male and female. (Galations.3:28). Still there are passages such as 1Timothy 2:11-15, and 1 Corinthians 14:35-38 that seem to teach that women should be silent and not have any authority over men.

However, might those passages be considered in light of these others that reveal an expanded role for women in the church?

For those that claim that this conclusion is letting the modern place of women override biblical truth I would prayerfully ask you to consider other areas where this type of  biblical application is seen as legitimate.

In Romans 13:1-2, Paul states that all governing authorities are from God and are to be obeyed. Does this mean the Christian should see all governments as legitimate and is bound to obey them? Governments like Nazi Germany, Stalin’s Russia, and Saddam’s Iraq?

It is easy for the discerning Christian to go to his or her Bible and find passages such as Daniel 6 (where Daniel defied the pagan king’s order to cease praying to God) to justify civil disobedience. Another passage such as Peter and John’s defiance of local authorities’ orders in Acts 4 to stop preaching about Jesus could be used.

Consider the Christian’s view of the legitimacy of war. We realize that Jesus taught “Blessed are the peacemakers,” (Matthew, 5:9 ); “Do not resist evil but turn the other cheek,” (Matthew, 5:39); and, “Love your enemies,” ( Matthew, 5:44).

Yet we also take into account the cultural situation of the early church in which there were no Christians directing armies or nations.

Does the modern Christian sit idly by and let evil triumph?

Do we allow the innocent to be murdered, imprisoned and tortured if we have the power to prevent it?  

I believe a case can be made that the Christian can go to war — though surely reluctantly — to defend the innocent.

To reach that conclusion one has to consider the culture in which the New Testament was written, other biblical passages that proclaim the Christian’s duty to protect the innocent and weak, and pray for God’s guidance in that matter.

I contend this is the same method Christians use to justify women in ministry. Conclusions reached by this method will be different but the line of reasoning is similar.

Another example is how a Christian views wealth. Wealth or an abundance of goods is almost uniformly condemned in the New Testament; (Luke 6:20-26; 16:19-31; James (5:1-6); 1 Timothy, 6:9-10).

Few preachers including myself preach that we should totally renounce all our wealth. However, we use a nuanced view of scripture, considering the context of these texts and other texts that deal with the subject of wealth and material possessions. This is seen as legitimate by most, though it is similar to the line of reasoning that finds leadership roles open to women in the church.

You could think of slavery as another issue that requires consideration of the context of the time the scripture was written, other scriptures and God’s new revelation and insight given as we view the topic of slavery today.

Good people can disagree on whether the evidence is strong enough to justify women in ministry. However, recognition of the common ways we all reach our verdicts of what scripture permits can lead to more cooperation among Bible believing Christians.    

Some time ago I watched some men construct a sidewalk. As they finished the men placed expansion joints in the sidewalk.

Expansion joints are indentions or mechanisms in sidewalks, driveways or bridges that allow expansion or contraction so these objects can endure and fulfill their purpose.

Might it be that God placed the scriptures empowering women for such times as these, when women are commonly in leadership roles?

I do not claim everyone will reach the same conclusion I have reached — that women have been freed to give leadership in all roles in the church. I do desire that those good folks who have decided that my conclusion is in error would consider how they themselves reach conclusions on scriptural issues and whether the method I have used to reach my conclusion is similar to the method they use on other issues.

In a bridge or a sidewalk expansion joints allow a structure to be strong enough to endure and fulfill its purpose.

Perhaps God placed the scriptures that empower women to leadership in the Bible in order for the church to fulfill its purpose in spreading the gospel and proclaiming the kingdom of Christ for times such as these.        

(EDITOR’S NOTE — Julen is pastor of FBC Cramerton.)


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Dr. James Willingham
Sir: Your column is interesting, instructive, and inspiring for the thought that it involves. You might find my address, "The Genius of Orthodoxy: Eldresses" worth considering. The Communications Dept of the BSCNC had it on video cassette the last time I check (20+ yrs ago). You might also want to go back and read what Baptist ministers and those of other denominations said in order to justify encouraging their young men to enlist in the patriot's cause (the American Revolution) which was Civil War, a rebellion against the duly costituted authority of the British Government. Interestingly enough, one minister was, I suspect, driven from the ministry, because he could not in good conscience support a civil war. Wisdom is justified of her children, and Dr. Land has a problem with myopia or so I think.

posted Friday, March 13, 2009 3:11 PM | Report Abuse
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Country Preacher
Pastor Julen obviously devoted much effort and thought to his well-written treatise on women in ministry. I did not find anything new in his article on women in ministry and my aim is not to endorse or indict his position. I simply wish to pose a question which I have never seen an adequate response to, especially in light of the specific charges he makes against the Georgia Baptist State Convention and Dr. Richard Land of the SBC. I believe his assertion to be true that that the "splintering" of the SBC and the BSCNC was driven largely by opposing roles of women in the church. Here then is my question: For those churches who left the SBC (and many of whom are now leaving the BSCNC)--primarily over the role of women in the church--WHY ARE YOU NOT STANDING BY THE POSITION YOU HAVE SO STRONGLY STATED BY CALLING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF WOMEN TO PASTOR YOUR CHURCHES? You may "ordain" female STAFF members, and appoint some number of lay ladies to the diaconate and leadership positions, but WHY AREN'T YOU CALLING SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF WOMEN TO BE YOUR PASTOR? To speak plainly and specifically--as Pastor Julen does--I refer to the CBF's lack of a clear, concise directive to encourage member churches to let their "yeas be yeas" when it comes to calling women pastors. Many of those churches who have flown the banner of women in ministry so proudly in the public arena seem somewhat less committed to "the cause" when it comes to their own church. For example, the website of First Baptist Church, Raleigh, proudly points out that they have "ordained several women to the gospel ministry" and have had female deacons since the 1870's (they now "require" 1/2 of their diaconate to be female). They don't explain, however, WHY THEY HAVE NOT CALLED A WOMAN PASTOR on the three occasions during the past 21 years when they called a pastor. Surely they could have found ONE woman qualified to be their pastor! Maybe when they call a pastor this time (they have been without a full-time pastor for going on 2 years), they will call a woman! FBC Raleigh is among the overwhelming majority of CBF churches whose PRACTICE of calling women in ministry vastly differs from their POSITION on women in ministry. IN CLOSING, my humble recommendation to Pastor Julen and all of those who would lecture, castigate, denounce, and desert the SBC and the BSCNC is simply this: When ya'll get your PRACTICE and POSITION on women in ministry consistent, THEN you can come and tell others why and how to do it!

Because of Him(2 Cor. 5:21),
Country Preacher

posted Friday, March 20, 2009 12:18 PM | Report Abuse
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Rev Mike Williams
We are fond of saying that God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow which ultimately means that God would not and could not contradict Himself from Old Tesatment to New Testament. So here is my thought or question. If God did not intend for women to fill positions of leadership within HIS church, why did He appoint Deborah to be the leader of the entire nation of Israel, His chosen people, and lead them into battle?

posted Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:34 AM | Report Abuse
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Rev. Mike Morrison
Rev. Williams, perhaps I am mistaken but when I read Judges 4 and 5, while Deborah does go with Barak, it is clear from the Holy Text that Barak was leading God's children into Battle, not Deborah. She was a prophet and judge in Israel, not King, not pastor and clearly not the leader of God's army.

posted Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:41 AM | Report Abuse
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Rev Mike Williams
Rev Morrison, I appreciate your response but Judges 4:4,5 states "Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was leading Israel at that time. She held court under the palm of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim, ..." Further Judges 4:9 states "Very well, Deborah said, I will go with you. But because of the way you are going about this, the honor will not be yours, for the Lord will hand Sisera over to a woman."

posted Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:02 PM | Report Abuse
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Tony Watts
Hello All,

To all interested, The church is not Israel and Israel is not the church. The Church is unique; not the wife of Jehovah but the Bride of Christ - His body - a mystery according to Paul. The modern tendency to mix and match the two is cause of much confusion in our churches today.

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Tony

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